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In Terms of the Final Outcome, the Political Polarization Amounts to a Hill of Beans


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#1 Russ Winter

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 09:52 AM

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US debt going is parabolic, as is record high political polarization.  The polarization shown on the chart really amounts to squat in terms of the bottom line.   Presidente Zero throws his latest campaign piece of meat (a “budget”) out for the Republican to go into a dizzle fit over.  Great theater for mainstream media talking heads, but if you want to know what this will mean in due course,  look at Greece, and multiple the effect 30 fold.

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The bottom line in terms of Presidente Zero’s budget is this: $1.33 trn budget deficit in the 2013 fiscal year – more than the $1.296 trillion 2011 budget deficit.   That takes the debt up to $18 trillion, in late 2013, and I think sooner.   That’s about 118% debt to GDP assuming interest cost don’t spike or the economy sinks (this budget assumes increasing to 3% in 2012, 3.6% in 2013).   I see revenues lagging even this still too optimistic  projection.  The Prez Zero budget assumes higher taxes,  and the end of the Bush taxes.  We will see how that plays out during the next economic crisis.

Meanwhile as a clue to how this plays out with the faux fiscal conservatives, the WSJ reports, “House Republican leaders said Monday they would introduce a bill extending the payroll-tax break for the rest of the year without finding spending cuts to offset the program’s cost. The proposal marks a major shift for Republicans, who previously had insisted that the costs of extending a trio of provisions expiring at the end of the month be offset with spending cuts.”. This latest “temporary extensions” (see chart 2) will add $167 billion to the budget. This means the next $16.4 trillion debt limit will be breached, drum roll please, just before the November election. Que delicioso!

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Republican turnout in primaries is way down. Zero’s State of the Union viewership was also way off, as voters tune out. I have no intention of supporting this two party system.  In a recent Rasmussen poll, 43% believe that politicians picked randomly out of the phone book would do a better job than the current Congress. Thirty-eight percent (38%) disagree with that assessment, while another 19% are not sure.”

For those of you who still give a shit, there is an alternative. American Elect will draft a Presidential candidate, and is now on the ballot in seventeen states so far. They have 450,000 Facebook “friends”, and over 2.4 million signatures. AE is currently taking delegates, which involves going through a security question process. Of course as a grass roots organization they take donations, and volunteers.  I am still supporting Buddy Roemerwho will likely seek this nomination, but there are others. Anybody who wants to get involved in Roemer’s AE bid, please contact me. There is also a good size petition to sign here, asking MSM to let Buddy in on a GOP debate.



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Posted 14 February 2012 - 01:41 PM

US debt is not going parabolic.  It went parabolic from 1995-2007.  US Central Gov debt is experiencing a short term surge as we try to plug a hole caused by the net debt collapse...which is private sector driven.  US Gov debt surge can run for maybe 1-2.5 years more.....

That chart is so misleading...plot it with private sector debt to GDP...and you will see that it is a drop in the bucket.  The real game is private sector debt.  Gov debt is a sideshow...and side effect at this this point.   Read Mauldin's latest interview with Kate Welling...that shows the true picture.

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 01:46 PM

View Postshooter, on 14 February 2012 - 01:41 PM, said:

US debt is not going parabolic.  It went parabolic from 1995-2007.  US Central Gov debt is experiencing a short term surge as we try to plug a hole caused by the net debt collapse...which is private sector driven.  US Gov debt surge can run for maybe 1-2.5 years more.....

That chart is so misleading...plot it with private sector debt to GDP...and you will see that it is a drop in the bucket.  The real game is private sector debt.  Gov debt is a sideshow...and side effect at this this point.   Read Mauldin's latest interview with Kate Welling...that shows the true picture.

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 01:55 PM

He said that businesses, consumers and the government would need to spend at least $1 trillion more than they are likely to spend in order for the economy to return to its pre-recession growth rate. But he added that no one is willing to spend the money necessary to jumpstart the economy, since the government is cutting spending, consumers are saving more, and businesses expect a lower return on their investments.

"Where's the money?" Goldstein asked.

The Conference Board, which counts half of all Fortune 500 companies among its members, provides economic and business advice and research to its member companies.

The main problem is that consumers' expectations for the future have plunged, Goldstein said. They suffered from such a large economic shock in 2008 and 2009 that many older people now do not expect to return to work, and many younger people no longer expect to make that much money, he continued. As a result, Americans have cut back on spending

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