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American Decline in Perspective, Part 1


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#1 qqqbear

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 02:19 PM

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The Iraq war is an instructive case. It was marketed to a terrified public on the usual grounds of self-defense against an awesome threat to survival: the "single question", then US president George W Bush and British premier Tony Blair declared, was whether Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein would end his programs of developing weapons of mass destruction. When the single question received the wrong answer, government rhetoric shifted effortlessly to our "yearning for democracy", and educated opinion duly followed course; all routine.

Later, as the scale of the US defeat in Iraq was becoming difficult to suppress, the government quietly conceded what had been clear all along. In 2007-2008, the administration officially announced that a final settlement must grant the US military bases and the right of combat operations, and must privilege US investors in the rich energy system - demands later reluctantly abandoned in the face of Iraqi resistance. And all well kept from the general population.

Gauging American decline

With such lessons in mind, it is useful to look at what is highlighted in the major journals of policy and opinion today. Let us keep to the most prestigious of the establishment journals, Foreign Affairs. The headline blaring on the cover of the December 2011 issue reads in bold face: "Is America Over?"

The title article calls for "retrenchment" in the "humanitarian missions" abroad that are consuming the country's wealth, so as to arrest the American decline that is a major theme of international affairs discourse, usually accompanied by the corollary that power is shifting to the East, to China and (maybe) India.

http://www.atimes.co...t/NB16Ak02.html

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 02:05 AM

Noam is such a lost cause.

The city of London rules the USA...period end of story...The USA is the demand of the global trade system.

Noam is like bacteria crawling around on a mindless war machine that the city of London fianaced the construction of the past 300 years

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 07:15 AM

Noam is the most famous anarchist, for a half century, and in the world today. Prolific writer. He would be amused by a London-centric world. All the feeds out of London go through likely one room in the Pentagon and are probably useful for the bigger picture and large problems such as the FOREX.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 07:24 AM

I rate Noam Chomsky as a free radical thinker who can communicate his ideas well... and he can spell!
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 07:31 AM

The unbreachable walls of Troy were breached by a horse named Echelon....long ago.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 05:24 PM

What a pity for Noam that he isn't up to speed on "London". If a  prion says an amoeba is underdeveloped I guess the amoeba would say hey you "I can't even tell if your a bod or a bot." Stick to boring, HT. Because boring and offensive is a bridge too far.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 09:06 PM

[quote name='HYPERTlGER' timestamp='1329375924' post='1109095']
Noam is such a lost cause.

The city of London rules the USA...period end of story...The USA is the demand of the global trade system

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I keep waiting on this London obsession.....? 'Til the other shoe drops....
Rothschilds? Bildersburgundians? The unbroken line of caretakers of the Holy Grail? Oxford dons and the Philosopher's Stone?

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 03:30 AM

You are all speculators enthralled by the unfolding of the drama.

I'm not.

I was where you were around 20 years ago...captivated.

The USA is a plaything of the owners of the global trade system...The carriers and the rest of the assets being placed in the Middle East are there because of orders from out of Europe...

London is the top financial center on Earth...that controls all the rest...

England was and always has been too small to rule the world...That is why the USA was created...George Washington was an asset of The British East India company...and Alexander Hamiltion was a city of London asset...

The financial system set up in New York was invented in the city of London...the political or administration system in the USA is just a rough copy of the New westminister parliamentary system.

The USA didn't gain independance from the city of London...

The US military is spred out over the planet basically picking up from where England left off following the 1933-1945 bankruptcy reorganization of the global trade system based in London.

The USA was collapsed 1929-1933 and then rebuilt into the war machine it is today...according to a long term plan that is being followed.

The current regime in Iran was installed by the city of London...

Obama is just an oblivious puppet.

Noam just panders...to earn a living.

Once you tell people what they don't want to hear...Which is Truth...they just search for a liar to embrace.

So to pander for a living you have to tell people what they want to hear...wonderfully constructed lies.

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 08:55 AM

Ah. London pulls all the strings in the world. Always has. And always will?
Perhaps a psychoelectromagnetic involuted forcefield is centered there? On the Prime Meridian. Which is why most of the more intricate crop circles are near there?

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 05:37 PM

The USA is nothing more than a birthday sparkler in a dark room that has the eyes of the world enthralled...

The Ultimate scapegoat.

because you don't compehend economics which is ultimately the study of power...You can't see how your response to my revelation came to be.

You have basically invested your whole life into the USA is the cause of it all meme...and now a counter information shows up which basically flushes years of investment capital down the toilet

and you can't accept it.

You can go look at the ruins of the Roman empire...Where are the ruins of the British empire?

London is stil the top financial center on Earth...It has the biggest derivatives market...and the pound is still the top currency...after centuries...That's 100's of years...

In 1944 Bretton woods created the IMF the World bank and made the US Dollar the global trade medium of exchange...but there is a rumor that it collapsed in 1971...But the IMF and world bank still exist and the US Dollar is still the Global trade meduim of exchange.

Social engineering...

basically your belief is the Titanic and you are the Captain and according to the rules you have to go down with the ship.

I really don't care what you believe...it doesn't change the logcial conclusion.

The global system is collapsing and I'm watching it...what we know or believe we know is not going to alter the logical conclusion.

It will collapse to maximum potential and the survivors will be employed to construct the next global trade system they will be ignorant of.

Lord Keynes and Harry Dexter White were both city of London assets...both Fabains...in honour of the Roman general Fabius Maximus (nicknamed "Cunctator", meaning "the Delayer").

That is what has been done for 67 years now...Postponement of arrival at the logical conclusion of the take more than you give equation...

The postponement of the inevitable play has been the winning bet for the past 67 years...betting or what you call investing into the postponement of the inevitable collapse of the take more than you give equation...has been profitable for 67 years.

Of course once postponement can't be sustained...The city of London will have to short...the world...and if anyone tries to attack London...The good old US of A or "Superman" will come to the rescue.

We'll fight for freedumb wherever there's trouble...GI joe is there...

WW1...WW2...WW3...WW4...WW?...Obama is a London installed puppet...because to clean up Wall street will lead to cleaning up London and Singapore and Hong Kong...etc followed by the realization that speculatative markets were just plundering schemes invented by plunderers a few centuries back in coffee houses....So that is why Obama the the puppet in chief was installed...Perception management...To protect the debt inflated global assets of the city of London...to protect the global plundering scam that has been in operation for centuries before anyone alive was born.

"When plunder (taking more than you give or absolute capitalism) becomes a way of life for a group of men (absolute capitalists) living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal (rule) system that authorizes it and a moral code (religion) that glorifies it.--Frederic Bastiat.

Noam is a pander...spent his entire life milking the system for fun and profit while manipulating his weak minded followers and mindless fans into believing he was against it...lol

You all don't have a hope in hell of breaking free from the rules of the game or the religious belief in it as the path to salvation.

After spending most of my life studying you all...that is the verdict...in laymans terms.

It's basically too hard for you all to wake up...because you have fallen deeply in love with the dream that you are awake....an when I say deeply...I mean so deeply it's awe inspiring how gone you all are...it's absolutely fascinating...

It's like you actually believe that Cris Angel actually does have supernatural powers to walk through walls and cause matter to appear out of thin air...that is how deep your belief is.

How devout your worship of illusion is.

When you all are forced to wake up at the logical conclusion...You all will at best run wild like upset/excited chimps demanding a return to monkey chow dreamland...your reaction to the OWS protests was a wonderful example of how you will react...chimps flipping with you all as cheerleaders...go chimps go...

You don't even comprehend how teh credit systam works and refuse to figure it out...you will just rely on others to do the thinking for you...others to rule you because you all can't rule yourselves.

A return to the good old days prior to the revelation of Truth...To when investment in ignorance of Truth was supplying you all with positive dividends...

Sorry that is what I see...whether I tell you or not.

I really try to see things from your perspective...but the only way I can see from your perspective is to reduce my level of consciousness.

I have to go back to a level of consciousness that I was at when I was a teenager...

That is the cold cruel reality I'm sorry to say.

The FEDERAL RESERVE is an effect of the cause which is the choice to take more power than you give.

It is a tool like a hammer that makes it easier to supply the demands of the take more than you give equation.

A chainsaw to allow trees to be chopped down faster than they regrow than with an axe...because as the system inflates or expands...the volume or amount of power required to sustain it increases.

DUH...

You eventually need better tools to extract the required yield of power the take more than you give equation demands...central banks are just products of take more than you give thinking.

Effects of the choice to take more than you give or plunder...not the cause of the choice.

None of you are interested in trying to figure anything out...that is why those who know rule all below that don't.

The FEDERAL RESERVE is the third central bank set up by the city of London in the USA...

You can think what you all want to think.

It's irrelevant to what I know.

flip out like chimps cut off from your monkey chow all you want...

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 07:27 PM

You really should get out more. The world is a lot more than the Anglo-centric view you have. Ever been to India or China?

Thought not... who needs to when you alone possess the truth through revelation.
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 10:05 PM

Can't vouch for any of it, maybe has been discredited, but there is a site that drops lots of "high finance" names and has references to "rothschild men" among intra-firm factions.

http://dunwalke.com/contents.htm
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Posted 18 February 2012 - 07:22 PM

I look at the world as a whole.

The The modern British free trade system based on the Ancient Roman free trade system is operating globally...

The Chinese and Indians are flies trapped in the web....sending their children to school to be taught the lies of economics...They are all trying to run their economies how they think they should be run according to their programming...not how they actually should be...

India? The british pound still circulates there...and because India still operates under the Brahaman absolute capitalist system...It's lagging behind China which operates under the Babylonian absolute capitalist system.

Your beliefs are the strings used by those higher in the hierarchy to manipulate you...to divide and rule all below...You are wetting your diaper and crying to me...Because I'm hurting you poor widdel feewings...there are Billions of people...you are one...and each an everone of you is going to die and be replaced with with a new person that has no clue as to what is going on.

You all will join the ranks of...those that existed before...

The top has created all the lies sold to all below who are according to the rules of the game you are all playing forced to buy them...your parnets ware forced and capitulated and accepted the program and they then forced you to accept the program...that is how it works...

Lick the boots of your GOD or suffer.

Anglo-centric?

It's power centric...money requires power to create and is an invention...A tool used to manipulate domesticated animals into doing what you want them to do...

You all are trained to fight to the death to remain asleep to enjoy the dream you are awake.

laugh or cry yourselves to sleep...

You all have about as much control over your destiny as leaves blowing around in a hurricane.

The USA will do as it's commanded by it's master like It always has...

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 07:47 PM

London?
Where to even begin?!
The puny Pound? At best 4% of the world's reserve currency
http://en.wikipedia....eserve_currency

Derivatives? London controls South Korean derviatives?!
http://www.risk.net/...-market-h1-fia#

http://www.menafn.co...ryId=1093482801

http://www.dailyfina...ves-market-gdp/
Yeah, maybe $12T

Size of the EuroNext?!
Liffe?
Size of the CME?


Never mind aint worth it. Have a good night




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